To all concerned:
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Our belated acknowledgement for the following comments posted at the GUESTS BOOK in the INM Website. Delayed is due to our absence in cyberspace for quite sometime; as follows:
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From: Jbltusa@.....>
Subject: re: Capiz Revolucionario
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Dear Kababayan,
I would very much appreciate some clippings regarding Colonel Pascual Barza, my great Grand Uncle ( Lolo Cuwa); also ion Mr. Isaac Barza, my grand Uncle__former President of the Philippine Chamber of Commerce before 1933.
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More Power to you.
Janice B. L.. Thabet
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Email: geeshop24@.....>
Comments: kamusta banwang ilong-ilonganon...sorry if bi-englih ni..pero i lav to support ilonggo nation..sa subong, i'm running an ilonggo section sa akon website.. running with cgispy.com...but until now, out of order pa ang ila website. ga plano ko tani to revive ang ilonggo/binisaya/kinaray-a ang language ta paagi sa mga binalaybay kag iban pa nga sahi sg literature naton nga bisa-aynon. just contact me on what can we do about this.
GEE
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Email: egauzonjr@.....>
Comments: With my little knowledge on local historiography I like the way the movement works. Local history narrates so interestingly than manila-centric history.
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erasmo gauzon jr
Valencia City, Bukidnon
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Email: tyron_cloyd@.....>
Comments: Hi Dinggol Great site for us ILONGGO. Im a member of Solfed member, founded by Dr. Joey Dacudao, one of your content contributor. Im into IT also. Good luck. USWAG MGA ILONGGO...
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Jay-R Calasara
Kabankalan City, Negros Occidental
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Email: trez_lobaton@.....>
Glicerio Lobaton
Pulupandan, Negros Occidental
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Email: braggart_21@.....>
Comments: Iloilo and the rest of Panay Island plus Guimaras should declare independence from the Philippine Republic. It's about time that we should have our own country, own passport, own laws, own legislators. I'm sick and tired of the politicians from Luzon determining our future. Let's declare independence and become a proud new country.
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Ian Alvarez
La Paz, Iloilo City (Presently in Saudi Arabia)
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Email: mcadornigara@.....>
Comments: Born and raised in Iloilo City, now teaching in Queens, New York
MARVIN CADORNIGARA
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Email: bbernales@.....>
Comments: Dear Dinggol, Thank you for directing me to the links of the Ilonggo Nation Movement. I need some help from genuine Ilonggo historians regarding the Chronology of the Ilonggo Nation under "The Spanish Conquest". Something seems to have been arbitrarily or expediently altered and does seem right.
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As a Capizeno, I feel slighted that there was no mention of the fact that Legaspi's first landing on Panay Island was in the Town of Panay (which later became part of Capiz Province). This is most likely how those damn Spaniards happened to name the whole island itself as Panay.
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Hopefully, your genuine or bonafide Ilonggo historians could help clarify the discrepancy because it has been engrained in our Capizeno minds that after Legaspi landed on Bohol Island on 1565, he next went to Cebu, and from there to Panay Island on 1566. On Panay Island, he landed first in the Town of Panay before going to Ogtong in Iloilo. From Ogtong, Legaspi's expedition then went to Romblon, and eventually ..
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Cicero A. (Bernie) Bernales
Kailua (Honolulu/Oahu), Hawaii
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Email: jobert.telic@.....>
Comments: I'm glad that you posted in capiz yahoo groups... Intresado guid ako nga makig-ugyon sa inyo... kabay pa nga ma-e-mail ninyo sa akon kon paano ako mangin miembro sang INM... Diri ako gali naga-obra sa Makati sa sulod na sang walo katuig...
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Jobert Telic
President Roxas, Capiz
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Email: jbrown@.....>
from: San Joaquin, Iloilo
Comments: Regarding the following comment posted on your website, please provide additional detail. I am a direct descendant of Santaren and would like to compare my information with yours. Who is your elder cousin mentioned below? "Fr. Tomas Santaren, fathered a child in San Joaquin, Iloilo whose son became an illustrious Ilonggo Physician, married to my close elder cousin who knows her family tree like the palm of her hands."
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Josie Brown
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Email: tlgoodwiniii@.....>
Comments: I found your site as a link on my friend Gil Camporazo's site "Vibrations." I learned alot from your site. God bless The Ilongo People, God bless the Phillipines.
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Thomas L. Goodwin III
Rockingham, NC USA
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Email: Bobdor@.....>
Comments: from: Las vegas, nv
Bobby Buenaflor
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Email: ndbvibrations@.....>
Comments: paagi sa pag-surf ko sang internet nakita ko ini nga site. interesado ako. maayo guid. palihog bisita man sang akon nga website kag tan-awa kun maayo. indi magkalipat nga mag sign sa akon guestbook. salamat guid!
gil
La Carlota City, Negros Occidental, Philippines
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Email: gladyct@.....>
from: iloilo
Comments: is it ok if i link you up to my blog?
gladita
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Email: SYLVESTERBRAG@.....>
Comments: SALAMAT SA INFORMASYON NAGHATAG SA AKON SG BUGAL BILANG ILONGGO KAG NABAL AN KO ANG ROOTS KO NGA ITUDLO KO MAN SA ANAK KO
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KIDOT
VANCOUVER
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Email: tagacolo@.....>
from: Bais City, Negros Oriental
Comments: I enjoyed reading your site. t.y.
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OUR SINCERE APOLOGIES ...dinggol d~~~
Ang Republika Federal sg Kabisay-an (The Federal Republic of the Visayas)
Historical Facts obviously omitted or deliberately hidden in our School History Books
(Source: History Reborn"The Federal Republic of the Visayas" -by: dinggol a.divinagracia*June 12, 2007)
*That Spain had already formally surrendered to the Federal Republic of the Visayas even before Gen. Emilio Aguinaldo was proclaimed Philippine President in Malolos, Bulacan on January 23, 1899. That our Independent Visayan Republic, had never been under the authority and jurisdiction of Aguinaldo's "Katagalogan" Republic in Luzon.
excerpted: "...A paper written by Jose Manuel Velmonte, a research associate at the UP Third World Studies Center, found that the Visayan revolutionary elites not only had sophisticated political ideas but also resented attempts by Malolos to assert its authority. A Tagalog military expedition sent by Malolos to Panay to assert its presence was met with hostility. The Luzon force led by Generals Ananias Diocno and Leandro Fullon was regarded by the Visayan revolutionaries, led by the Visayan supremo, Gen. Martin Delgado, as an ''invasion'' force ..." (Source: Inquirer-1999- 06-13 "View of revolt in provinces spurs revision" By: Amando Doronila)
According to Dr. Luis C.Dery, an eminent Filipino Scholar: "Expounding the extent of Aguinaldo's Philippine Army; the Bangsamoro nation's Mindanao, Sulu, and the rest of its islands never fell under Aguinaldo's politico-military control and sovereignty. In fact as late as August 1898 much of northern Luzon, southern Luzon, the Visayas, and Mindanao remained outside of the control of Aguinaldo's Republic. Thus, several military expeditions were sent to these places to bring' them to recognize the First Philippine Republic."
*That the 1898 Treaty of Paris preliminaries, should not have included territories of the sovereign "Visayan Nation"; the confederation of both the Central and Western Visayas Cantonal Governments by virtue of Spain's formal surrender prior to this U.S. and Spain treaty of peace (Paris) and the $20-million buy-out. Spain had no more legal rights to sell. In legal parlance "nemodat quod non habet” -meaning “you cannot give what is not yours”. It states that the purchase of a possession from someone who has no ownership right to it also denies the purchaser any ownership title.
This diplomatic "Faux pas" that was supposed to be officially consummated and became legal and internationally binding only on APRIL 11, 1899 should, or rather must be rectified.
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*June 12, 1898 -Gen. Emilio Aguinaldo proclaimed Philippine Independence from Spain in Kawit, Cavite --but never won the war against Spain, as explained in the infamous betrayal --the "Mock Battle of Manila of August 13, 1898".
*Nov. 6 & Dec. 23, 1898 -Spain formally surrendered to both; the Negros Republic that merged (Dec. 2, 1898) with the Federal Republic of the Visayas based in Iloilo (respectively)
excerpted: "...These two nations, from a purely legal point of view, are COMPLETELY LEGITIMATE UNTIL TODAY. This could imply that the Manila-based Tagalista-oriented Unitarian central government of the Philippines in the Visayas and Mindanao is an Occupational Government, that ultimately originated from an invalid Treaty of Paris...."
Dr. Jose P. Dacudao; National President -Save Our Languages thru Federalism Foundation (SOLFED), Inc.
*July 4, 1946 -The United States of America granted Philippine Independence on a silver platter with strings attached.
"True Independence could never be just self-proclaimed nor bestowed upon, it has to be won and duly achieved with dignity" -- DinggolAranetaDivinagracia (Founder: Ilonggo Nation Movement (INM) Global Network ..Dec. 25, 2005)
Dinggol is an Ilonggo Historian of modern times. He is a lover of nature and reform activist by profession; a genealogist by avocation, and an avid advocate of the Cooperative Movement and "Parliamentary" Federalism. He is, likewise, a duly registered Researcher at the U.S. Library of Congress in the nations capital --Washington D.C.
"It is rather speculative as it is without basis of history if we mean of "history" is that which had been written for us by the "tutas" or lackeys of our colonial and imperial masters.." -- Benjie Evicner Estuche (INM Co-Founder)
"Federalism is not the best way, it is the only way"..
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Join the Last Laugh with us!
*When Christopher Columbus said that the world is round, people asked -What? and then they laughed.
*When the Wright brothers said they'll fly and soar the skies, people asked -How? and then they laughed.
*When Jules Verne wrote someday man could travel below the seven seas and shall walk on the moon, people asked - When? and then they laughed.
*When John the Baptist prophesied the coming of the Lord, the Messiah, people asked -Who? and then they laughed.
*When the Ilonggo Nation Movement (INM) Global Network announced its mission and vision, people did not even bother to ask, What? How? When? or Who? --They just laughed and laughed. *People are still laughing, ...but the laughter is fading!
Ang inyo alagad sa guihapon -DinggolAranetaDivinagracia~~
(Source: History Reborn"The Federal Republic of the Visayas" -by: dinggol a.divinagracia*June 12, 2007)
*That Spain had already formally surrendered to the Federal Republic of the Visayas even before Gen. Emilio Aguinaldo was proclaimed Philippine President in Malolos, Bulacan on January 23, 1899. That our Independent Visayan Republic, had never been under the authority and jurisdiction of Aguinaldo's "Katagalogan" Republic in Luzon.
excerpted: "...A paper written by Jose Manuel Velmonte, a research associate at the UP Third World Studies Center, found that the Visayan revolutionary elites not only had sophisticated political ideas but also resented attempts by Malolos to assert its authority. A Tagalog military expedition sent by Malolos to Panay to assert its presence was met with hostility. The Luzon force led by Generals Ananias Diocno and Leandro Fullon was regarded by the Visayan revolutionaries, led by the Visayan supremo, Gen. Martin Delgado, as an ''invasion'' force ..." (Source: Inquirer-1999- 06-13 "View of revolt in provinces spurs revision" By: Amando Doronila)
According to Dr. Luis C.Dery, an eminent Filipino Scholar: "Expounding the extent of Aguinaldo's Philippine Army; the Bangsamoro nation's Mindanao, Sulu, and the rest of its islands never fell under Aguinaldo's politico-military control and sovereignty. In fact as late as August 1898 much of northern Luzon, southern Luzon, the Visayas, and Mindanao remained outside of the control of Aguinaldo's Republic. Thus, several military expeditions were sent to these places to bring' them to recognize the First Philippine Republic."
*That the 1898 Treaty of Paris preliminaries, should not have included territories of the sovereign "Visayan Nation"; the confederation of both the Central and Western Visayas Cantonal Governments by virtue of Spain's formal surrender prior to this U.S. and Spain treaty of peace (Paris) and the $20-million buy-out. Spain had no more legal rights to sell. In legal parlance "nemodat quod non habet” -meaning “you cannot give what is not yours”. It states that the purchase of a possession from someone who has no ownership right to it also denies the purchaser any ownership title.
This diplomatic "Faux pas" that was supposed to be officially consummated and became legal and internationally binding only on APRIL 11, 1899 should, or rather must be rectified.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
*June 12, 1898 -Gen. Emilio Aguinaldo proclaimed Philippine Independence from Spain in Kawit, Cavite --but never won the war against Spain, as explained in the infamous betrayal --the "Mock Battle of Manila of August 13, 1898".
*Nov. 6 & Dec. 23, 1898 -Spain formally surrendered to both; the Negros Republic that merged (Dec. 2, 1898) with the Federal Republic of the Visayas based in Iloilo (respectively)
excerpted: "...These two nations, from a purely legal point of view, are COMPLETELY LEGITIMATE UNTIL TODAY. This could imply that the Manila-based Tagalista-oriented Unitarian central government of the Philippines in the Visayas and Mindanao is an Occupational Government, that ultimately originated from an invalid Treaty of Paris...."
Dr. Jose P. Dacudao; National President -Save Our Languages thru Federalism Foundation (SOLFED), Inc.
*July 4, 1946 -The United States of America granted Philippine Independence on a silver platter with strings attached.
"True Independence could never be just self-proclaimed nor bestowed upon, it has to be won and duly achieved with dignity" -- DinggolAranetaDivinagracia (Founder: Ilonggo Nation Movement (INM) Global Network ..Dec. 25, 2005)
Dinggol is an Ilonggo Historian of modern times. He is a lover of nature and reform activist by profession; a genealogist by avocation, and an avid advocate of the Cooperative Movement and "Parliamentary" Federalism. He is, likewise, a duly registered Researcher at the U.S. Library of Congress in the nations capital --Washington D.C.
"It is rather speculative as it is without basis of history if we mean of "history" is that which had been written for us by the "tutas" or lackeys of our colonial and imperial masters.." -- Benjie Evicner Estuche (INM Co-Founder)
"Federalism is not the best way, it is the only way"..
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~oo0oo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Join the Last Laugh with us!
*When Christopher Columbus said that the world is round, people asked -What? and then they laughed.
*When the Wright brothers said they'll fly and soar the skies, people asked -How? and then they laughed.
*When Jules Verne wrote someday man could travel below the seven seas and shall walk on the moon, people asked - When? and then they laughed.
*When John the Baptist prophesied the coming of the Lord, the Messiah, people asked -Who? and then they laughed.
*When the Ilonggo Nation Movement (INM) Global Network announced its mission and vision, people did not even bother to ask, What? How? When? or Who? --They just laughed and laughed. *People are still laughing, ...but the laughter is fading!
Ang inyo alagad sa guihapon -DinggolAranetaDivinagracia~~
Claim your birth right,
VISIT AND JOIN US! AT: "GLIMPSES OF ILONGGO HISTORY"
https://www.facebook.com/groups/2470058109983695
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"ACTA DE CAPITULACION~1898" (The Formal Surrender Document)
Ergo! we won our battle-scarred freedom and legitimate independence and became a sovereign nation. The "First" Republic in the whole of Asia, but was nipped-in-the bud by the "ugly" Americans. A diplomatic faux pas, a political blunder and a travesty of history! --DinggolAranetaDivinagracia~~~
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Hi, T2 Dinggol.. Keep up the good work! It seems there is a lot of need for updating your blog. Regards to friends and kin. From Edgar, Iloilo City.
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